Posted by: DIS | March 11, 2017

Spiritual things



  1. This is a great video Bill, he speaks of the divine nature and being born again, I am glad to see you acknowledging that. I didn’t think you believed in the fallen nature of carnal man


    • Greetings, cmarden……mans nature before and after the fall is the same, for he could both sin or choose to obey both before and after the Eden exile…Its assumed on every single page of scripture beginning with Gen. 4-7 that man has the natural ability to choose to do well. Adam had this same ability in Gen. 3 and he never lost it….This man teaches the ability to obey from the heart that form of doctrine once delivered to the saints..If it were not true then God would have to go back and apologize to Cain for judging him unfairly..

      i might add also how was Cornelius, Zechorais, and Elisabeth were able to obey…

      • Philippians 2-12,13

        It’s the influencing power of grace combined with man’s faith, for we are workers together with God.

        The principles of man working together with God are plastered all over the text from Genesis to Revelation.

        Here is an excellent example given by Paul in the letter to the Philippians.

        2-12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, workout you own salvation with fear and trembling (fear of God; in that it’s a fearful thing to fall in the judgement hands of the living God, for the wrath of God remains on the children of disobedience)

        13 “for it is Him that worketh (energeo) in you both to will and to do His good pleasure”

        These two verses are in harmony with the working dynamics of grace and faith found in Eph. 2-8..Man strives to enter working out ( a tedious effort) his part by a faithfulness to God that works by love and does no ill to His neighbor. And God energizes that faith with the working dynamic of grace. The conduit is faith, and the energizing power (“energeo” in the Greek)….. that which is delivered through the conduit of faith is the power of God’s grace, the Spirit of grace. (empowerment of the Spirit to live godly) Titus 2-12,13,14. It’s always saved by His grace coupled with our faith. And remember no one can save themselves for only God can forgive past sins through the blood atonement of Christ.

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